Schitt with Money S1E6: Wine & Roses
Welcome back to Schitt with Money! Peita and Emma are popping open Season 1, Episode 6: Wine and Roses, where Moira gets her big shot at a comeback - or at least a mildly offensive fruit wine ad. Meanwhile, David has a health crisis, Alexis drops Naomi Campbell-level references during community service, and Johnny… well, Johnny’s doing his best not to direct everyone within a 10-metre radius.
In This Episode:
🍷 Moira’s comeback (kind of) – She lands a local endorsement gig for Herb Ertlinger’s fruit wine… and cannot, for the life of her, say his name. But despite nerves, bugs in her wine, and Johnny’s stage mum energy, she pulls it off in full Moira theatrical fashion.
😰 David’s panic spiral – Sleep deprived and WebMD-obsessed, David is convinced he’s dying. Turns out, it’s a panic attack. But in classic Rose sibling style, he weaponises it into a guilt trip for Alexis. Naturally.
🧘 Jocelyn saves the day (and David’s back) – Forced into yoga, David finds unexpected peace, comfort… and a nap on Jocelyn. A hilarious moment, with an oddly tender undertone.
🛠️ Johnny’s misplaced ambition – With no job and no control, Johnny throws himself into Moira’s commercial shoot… and slowly drives everyone mad.
🧼 Alexis vs. laundry rocks – While benchmarking her community service outfits on Naomi Campbell (of course), she’s also lowkey starting to figure herself out, while dating the blandest eco-warrior ever.
Schitt We Learned:
💳 Start small, start somewhere – Moira may not be starring in a blockbuster, but she’s contributing, getting paid, and rediscovering her confidence. Sometimes, the ‘little gig’ is the one that gets us going again.
🧘♀️ Support can come from unexpected places – Jocelyn offering warmth (literally) is a reminder that kindness (even accidental) can make a big difference.
📞 Family dynamics are weird (and hilarious) – From phone chaos to awkward love languages, the Roses are fumbling their way through growth… kind of.
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Next Up: Episode 7 – Turkey Shoot. Not a Thanksgiving episode. Not a drill. Expect misfired strategies, misplaced kindness, and Schitt flying everywhere.
Until next time, “taking a selfish” is self-care, not selfish. Normalise it. Do it. Own it.
Transcript
What do you get when you mix Schitt's Creek?
Speaker A:A financial adviser and an accountant.
Speaker A:Well, a podcast, apparently.
Speaker A:We're Peter and Emma and together we're re watching Schitt's Creek, obsessing over its brilliance and sneaking in some unexpected money lessons.
Speaker A:Welcome to Shit with.
Speaker A:Oh, Emma.
Speaker A:We have arrived at episode six.
Speaker A:Can you believe it?
Speaker B:Can't believe it.
Speaker A:She's cooking with gas.
Speaker A:This is amazing.
Speaker A:And this one is gold.
Speaker A:We've got Moira in full blown dramatic actress mode.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:David spiraling, you know, even further and poor Johnny just trying to keep it together, Right.
Speaker A:Keep everybody on track.
Speaker A:But as always, the universe has other plans and Johnny can't keep it on track, which I love.
Speaker A:This episode is called Wine and Roses.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:In particular, Moira attempting to pronounce Herb.
Speaker A:I can't even say Ertlinger's name.
Speaker B:Come taste the difference good fruit can make in your wine.
Speaker A:You'll remember the experience and you'll remember the name.
Speaker B:Herb Ervlinger.
Speaker B:Bert Herngeve.
Speaker B:Irv Hermlinger.
Speaker B:Bing.
Speaker B:Livehanger Live link.
Speaker B:Bert Herkern.
Speaker B:Bingo Ling.
Speaker A:If you were actually filming that, I'd be snorting with laughter the whole way through.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Oh, and the fact she managed to, as an actress, she managed to deliver Herb Irvingle, Bert Herninguff.
Speaker A:Like she just kept on going.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And I love to know actually whether she was winging that or whether they came up with the random names she said for her because it was just priceless.
Speaker A:So good and so, so good.
Speaker B:I think it's our first take on Moira's profession, you know, first time we've seen her as an actress, you know, is because she's an actress in her life.
Speaker B:Like she's.
Speaker B:She's a complete actress.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:But this is her being a professional actress and she's actually good.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And we find a bit more about that past, don't we?
Speaker A:So we, you know, her one claim to fame, which is sort of all the big claim to fam, which is Sunrise Bay, which is fabulous.
Speaker A:But she doesn't want to call it a comeback, you know, because she doesn't want to jinx it, which is just fabulous.
Speaker A:And I'm sort of curious, do you think this is Moira taking steps towards a new career or do you think she's sort of hanging onto the scraps of the old one at this point still.
Speaker A:Like, she's still trying to get back to what she was.
Speaker B:I think she.
Speaker B:It's just a confidence boost.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:I think she's a.
Speaker B:Scott, Someone wants me.
Speaker B:Someone sees me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And like, this is just.
Speaker B:She's just taking that and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And almost doing a.
Speaker B:Of course this.
Speaker B:Of course they want me.
Speaker B:Like, you know, of course they want me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Type thing.
Speaker B:So I think it's a bit of a confidence boost is just kind of getting her back into the.
Speaker B:The spirit of things.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:But of course, for Johnny.
Speaker A:He'S invested, isn't he?
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah, she might be focusing on maybe some sort of comeback or whatever or that.
Speaker A:That they finally recognized a talent that Johnny is in.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And understandably, you know, they need some income, so why not?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he's sort of treating this like it could land her, I don't know, best drunken endorsement or something at the.
Speaker A:The Oscars.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:It's just fabulous.
Speaker A:He is so invested.
Speaker A:He's almost like the.
Speaker A:The Steadford mums.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that's sort of really pushing their kid to perform, you know.
Speaker B:Totally.
Speaker A:And poor Maura actually gets nervous.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:She told them to go away, go home.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She starts doubting herself and.
Speaker A:Which is interesting.
Speaker A:We've not really seen that yet from Moira.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:And this is in her space.
Speaker A:So it's so interesting that this is the time she.
Speaker A:She doesn't doubt herself in all these random situations she gets herself into.
Speaker A:But this where it should be where she's most confident, she really starts doubting herself, you know, which is sort of heartbreaking.
Speaker A:But of course, Johnny just comes in, finally comes in with the real pep talk.
Speaker A:He's like, all right, you've got this.
Speaker A:You're wonderful.
Speaker A:You know, he's hyping her up like it's sort of opening night and Broadway and.
Speaker A:And it's sort of.
Speaker A:I mean, it does work for that moment.
Speaker A:It sort of all falls apart from on them later.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But he does.
Speaker A:I mean, he is wonderfully in that moment.
Speaker A:He's very supportive.
Speaker B:He's trying to be supportive.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I think he took it a bit far earlier, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:And, you know, that's when she asked him to.
Speaker B:To leave.
Speaker B:And obviously he turned around at the end and came back.
Speaker B:But, yeah, you know, he's trying to be supportive, but he's also kind of wrapped up in the fact that he's not involved.
Speaker B:Like, he needs to find his place.
Speaker B:Like, he doesn't know where his place is in this thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He doesn't want to be more his assistant.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Like he's.
Speaker A:Which is probably.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But really she just needs somebody to be running around doing a few things for her.
Speaker A:Not the.
Speaker A:Not her agent or.
Speaker A:Not her.
Speaker B:Or trying to direct.
Speaker B:Trying to direct the ad and do you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And he's like giving directions for people and telling the what lens are we using?
Speaker B:And those types of things.
Speaker B:And I think it's annoying everybody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's adding to Moira's stress and nerves.
Speaker B:And she, in the end just says, too much sleeping.
Speaker A:Yeah, please.
Speaker A:You know, and look, we've also got to take a moment to just appreciate and reflect on Moira's absolute power outfit.
Speaker A:When they visit the winery for the first time.
Speaker A:She's sort of got this flock of seagulls hair, which is fabulous.
Speaker A:And an Elizabethan ruffles around her neck.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just perfection.
Speaker A:I mean, if I was Catherine O'Hara, the actress, I'd have been waiting with baited breath every time that I'd be going to, you know, the.
Speaker A:The outfits, whatever they call it.
Speaker A:What do they call it?
Speaker B:Wardrobe.
Speaker A:Wardrobe.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:When they go to wardrobe, just to see what they pull up, you know, for you.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Far out.
Speaker A:She's just.
Speaker A:She's just incredible.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:Just incredible.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:Like, where do they find this stuff?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And who would have the time?
Speaker A:I mean, I know she doesn't do much.
Speaker A:I guess so she would have the time, but it would take you hours to get ready.
Speaker A:There's so much product and.
Speaker A:And layers and like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:They have no possessions, but they've got these exorbitant clothes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Which is hilarious.
Speaker B:But then, you know, she finds the fruit fly.
Speaker B:There's an insect in her wine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the orange says it's all organic and pesticide free.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:And because I think.
Speaker A:Did he say it's a ladybug?
Speaker A:Like, it's.
Speaker A:It's all you.
Speaker A:And that means it's even more organic.
Speaker A:There's lady.
Speaker A:I'm like, no, it's.
Speaker A:That doesn't mean it's more organic.
Speaker A:That's just gross.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker A:Just because Corona put, you know, bugs or worms in beer doesn't mean it's okay to put it in wine.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Like, ooh, yeah, look, this episode.
Speaker A:So we've got one meltdown with Moira.
Speaker A:There we also also have another one.
Speaker A:Po.
Speaker A:David is really not okay in this episode.
Speaker A:The poor thing, he hasn't slept in days and he's convinced he's having a heart attack.
Speaker A:And like any person in the world we live in, he decides that he should go to a very trusted medical source, WebMD, and self diagnose himself.
Speaker A:And it never tells you you're fine.
Speaker A:Anybody who's ever googled their symptoms, it's never going to tell you you're fine.
Speaker B:It's always terrible.
Speaker A:Right, because every symptom is a cause of terrible possible.
Speaker A:Or a symptom of possible organ failure or something really serious.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It's just that it's got to have a lot more symptoms for it actually to be that.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But then he does what I think is possibly the most David thing ever.
Speaker A:He guilts Alexis into caring about it.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because she's just like, whatever, whatever, drama, drama, drama.
Speaker A:By almost giving his own eulogy, you know, he sort of says, I think you're gonna feel very guilty when I slip into a coma and you have to come visit me in the hospital at hospice, so.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I mean that their dynamic is just so special.
Speaker A:I'm curious, have you ever made the mistake of going down the Googling a medical situation all the time?
Speaker B:All the number of lectures I've received from my GP about not Googling symptoms, especially when I became a mum.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness, yes.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:They always get sick in the night and they don't know do I need to take them to the hospital or do I wait till the morning when it's too big a response and I don't want to stress my mum out by calling her and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What do we do?
Speaker B:You know, do I go?
Speaker B:Do I not.
Speaker B:Do I, you know, rash and temperature?
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Right, yeah.
Speaker A:What's the layers of thing that make this serious as opposed to just something we can all get through?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Can I wait till the morning or not?
Speaker B:So you Google it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And of course, particularly as a first parent, you know, particularly when you haven't got those sort of benchmarks or those experiences to go up.
Speaker A:You'll be fine.
Speaker A:Are you spurting blood?
Speaker A:I mean, that's what ends up happening by the third.
Speaker A:Are you actually like spitting blood?
Speaker A:No, you'll be fine.
Speaker B:You can wait till the morning.
Speaker B:You can wait till the morning.
Speaker B:We'll see if you wake up.
Speaker B:That's terrible.
Speaker B:Shouldn't say that.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's a.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's such a bad Way to go, isn't it?
Speaker A:It's because it's.
Speaker A:There is learning and insight required.
Speaker A:And also we, strangely enough, don't notice enough of the symptoms to be able to do that.
Speaker A:I mean, you actually.
Speaker A:You could use a resource like that if you're able to list all the things that you're presenting with.
Speaker A:Something might actually be able to say, hey, it might be this or this.
Speaker A:But we go like one or two.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To the top.
Speaker A:Oh, well, that's, you know, terrible liver failure.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Straight, straight to the top.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I think we're all.
Speaker B:All guilty.
Speaker B:But we're also used to finding all our answers online.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know that's the source of order.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know, if you need to bake something.
Speaker B:Recipe for this, please.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:We go there and gives us a recipe and it works if we need to get somewhere.
Speaker B:Directions to this place, please.
Speaker B:If we need DIY help around the house.
Speaker B:How do I do this?
Speaker B:This is your YouTube video and you can watch.
Speaker B:So, you know, Google is the source of all of our truths.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And we default.
Speaker B:We go there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's so interesting.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:And even though we all acknowledge, particularly of any profession, doctors are seen as the one that actually are professionals in that they do have an expertise.
Speaker A:We're still.
Speaker B:Happily, we can only become doctors where.
Speaker A:Any person can have a view, and that might be what we come across, you know.
Speaker B:What about you, Peter?
Speaker B:Have you had that?
Speaker B:I'm sure everyone probably.
Speaker A:Well, look, I don't.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker A:I've had a history of a serious thing that meant I learned the hard way not to sort of dig too far because you just can't get it right.
Speaker A:So I'm like, no, I'll speak to the doctor, or if I'm concerned, I'll call.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:Yeah, don't Google it.
Speaker A:Don't do it.
Speaker A:It's not helpful.
Speaker A:And you go down that rabbit hole and then it's all bad.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And that can.
Speaker A:That in itself can recreate symptoms, you know, and in fact, as it turns out for David, some of the symptoms we might trigger in ourselves by going down that for him, he eventually does see a professional, a vet, but at least they're vaguely in the medical.
Speaker B:I know, but he's got a sense of humor himself.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker A:He's staring in the whole way, which is.
Speaker A:And, you know, shock of all shocks.
Speaker A:He's not dying.
Speaker A:David's not dying.
Speaker A:He's having a panic attack.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I mean, I can imagine just that research would cause you to go down that path, let alone the fact he hasn't slept.
Speaker A:So he's clearly something's going on.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I thought his reaction was really interesting.
Speaker A:Oh, no, those.
Speaker A:Those aren't real.
Speaker A:Those are a PR spin for celebrity publicists.
Speaker A:Trust me, I've known enough celebrities.
Speaker A:I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker B:So interesting.
Speaker A:And I'm curious what you think.
Speaker A:Do you think people now, because this is 10 years ago, that storyline wouldn't fly as well because people now sort of would more acknowledge that panic attacks are a real thing.
Speaker A:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it.
Speaker A:It really says no other panic attacks.
Speaker A:They're not real.
Speaker B:I think the storyline would still be just as funny.
Speaker A:Oh, would be funny.
Speaker B:You know, I think people.
Speaker B:I think it's the same then and now that people, you know, the general public do think that panic attacks are real.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that he just was in a world where it was.
Speaker B:They were used as excuses for celebrities to not turn up to events.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So I think, I think it would be the same hours it was then.
Speaker B:I don't think it's.
Speaker B:I think it's just his world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And I think also, what people who've ever experienced them or been with somebody who's had one, I think you can pick them from a mile off, like, you know, you know, sort of what to look for.
Speaker A:But I think also for others it can be.
Speaker A:Look, just breathe through it.
Speaker A:What's the problem?
Speaker A:Like, and particularly Australians, like, suck it up, you know, So I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker A:I think it probably would be pretty similar as.
Speaker A:As his reaction to his own panic attack, which is quite funny.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Oh, hilarious.
Speaker A:Dude, you're the one that brought it up.
Speaker B:I know, but you know what?
Speaker B:I have had a panic attack before.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yes, I have.
Speaker B:And I can understand why he thought he was having a heart attack.
Speaker B:It's not that your heart hurts, it's just.
Speaker B:You're just in a panic.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And you're inside yourself and you get very legs.
Speaker B:I can't walk.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:Like, you know, then, you know, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it.
Speaker A:When you get to a dramatic.
Speaker B:It's very dramatic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you just don't know what's going on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you think it's physical, right?
Speaker B:Right, I think it's physical.
Speaker B:But you're fine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can't feel my legs, but I can walk.
Speaker B:But I can.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Looking back, it's.
Speaker B:It's crazy, but it.
Speaker B:When you're in the moment.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker B:It's a physical.
Speaker B:You think it's physical, but it's clearly not because you're still walking and, you know, doing all the things.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So I can understand why he would be thinking he's having a heart attack and not like, you know, it's not a panic attack.
Speaker B:Like, I can.
Speaker B:Like, panic attacks aren't real.
Speaker B:Like, that's not a physical thing.
Speaker B:But this is physical.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I think it's the sort of thing.
Speaker A:It actually made me think, you know, it's the sort of thing that would be great to.
Speaker A:For kids to learn to look out for.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, both for themselves, but others.
Speaker A:Because part of the way they can get worse is because you don't know what it is and you're thinking it's worse.
Speaker A:Do you mean, like.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think you could spiral into it.
Speaker A:Whereas if you started to recognize early signs, you might be able to find ways to sort of.
Speaker A:Sort of unwind it a little, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And slow it down.
Speaker A:But the fact that you, like, you say you don't know and it feels extreme, then that can only make it worse.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:I know, but it's terrible.
Speaker A:Interesting in.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, he can't recognize his panic attack.
Speaker A:But I thought David and Alexis had this idea that I actually loved as an expression and something to have with friends and family, which was this awesome concept called taking a selfish.
Speaker B:Oh, yes, I'm gonna take a selfish.
Speaker A:I'm gonna take a selfish, which is what I love, because it's a way for you to sort of go, look, I either help or I'm tapping out.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I need to.
Speaker A:It's my.
Speaker A:You know, it's my turn.
Speaker A:I just need to do this.
Speaker A:But I thought, because it's a bit of a flippant thing, it lets you do that without it being dramatic.
Speaker A:And I thought that was actually pretty cool.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:It's like, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm taking a time out, or I'm taking out.
Speaker B:This is my turn now.
Speaker B:And you need to support me.
Speaker B:I need you.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Even if it's just to step in for a bit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just need to take care of this stuff so I can just go and do what I need to do.
Speaker A:Yeah, I thought actually that was a cracking idea.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And also about, like, the closeness of siblings.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:They're actually.
Speaker B:They've got these little things.
Speaker A:They do.
Speaker A:They've got.
Speaker A:They do.
Speaker A:And some of these, I guess, are probably coping mechanisms to put in Place.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Given the adventures it's clear they've had.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:And so, you know, even though they've, like, through all the exorbitant life, it's almost like Johnny and Moira have a life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And David and Alexis have a life.
Speaker B:You know, they.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:These separate.
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:And as siblings, they rely on each other.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I'm out of sticky situations.
Speaker B:Things that ordinarily a parent would get you.
Speaker B:Help get you out of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They relying on each other.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:So taking a selfish.
Speaker B:You know, really, in reality it would be, mum, I need help, or dad, I need help.
Speaker B:You know, can you help me with this or, you know, I need all.
Speaker B:The parent recognizes it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Parent recognize it for the child and says, you need some time or you need some.
Speaker B:You know, we need to do that.
Speaker B:But in this case, they're identifying it and relying on the sibling to support them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's a very interesting dynamic, but it works for them.
Speaker A:It does and works really well.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I actually wrote it down.
Speaker A:I'm like, this is a great expression.
Speaker A:What a great way to let us say something to people, you know, around us.
Speaker A:And I'm just.
Speaker A:I need to take a selfish.
Speaker A:You know, like, I just think it's fabulous.
Speaker A:One of the other funny takeaways for me in this episode, and it's with Maura, right.
Speaker A:She's got this gig, the fruit wine.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And at first she clearly hates it in.
Speaker A:I mean, it's disgusting wine.
Speaker A:And this is well below.
Speaker B:And the bug.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's not Oscar.
Speaker A:It's not an Oscar winning role.
Speaker A:She's really.
Speaker A:She's really a bit bitter about the fact she has to do this.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Which is interesting.
Speaker A:But by the end, actually, she really owns it, you know, if.
Speaker A:Even if she still can't own, you know, pronounced the owner's name, she really starts caring about the outcome, you know, and she sort of puts her whole self in.
Speaker A:Then she's like, all right, well, if we're going to do this, I'm going to go full dramatic theatrical horror.
Speaker A:And maybe it's not a grand comeback, but, you know, I thought that this has been interesting for the Roses then, to learn that sometimes those little things, you know, can get you started, get you a bit of income.
Speaker A:They can't be too picky and you can still do something.
Speaker A:Well, even if it's a little thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker A:It was an interesting lesson, I think for them.
Speaker B:Very humbling.
Speaker A:It is humbling.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But she still, she Gets it done in the end, even though it's hysterical.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I think we probably all can fall foul of that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Just thinking it's got to be the next big thing that we focus on instead of treating the one that you've got in front of you with a bit of respect, giving it the energy, getting it done.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I think maybe we.
Speaker A:Because we're not good at picking good opportunity, like really big opportunities anyway.
Speaker A:Who knows what it's going to lead to?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, just do the.
Speaker A:The thing in front of you really well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I thought it was interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, she did a great job and, you know, I think it almost was a bit of a distraction for any confidence boost.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know, really made the thing.
Speaker B:Believe in herself.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And be contributing.
Speaker A:She might not acknowledge that, but she's contributing.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:The other thing we learn about Davis, David and Alexis growing up, so, you know, they clearly have these things they've worked out between them, but I think what stands out for me is I don't think they were either held or cuddled or whatever much growing up at all.
Speaker A:Because this moment stood out for me in this episode where the moment where David finally sleeps, like, finally manages to get after the panic attack and after all this stuff.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's actually on top of Jocelyn in yoga right now.
Speaker A:It's played for last and it is hysterical.
Speaker A:That whole scene in yoga is hysterical.
Speaker A:But I actually think there's something a bit deeper there.
Speaker A:I think, you know, Jocelyn was genuinely kind to him and it's tactile.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They're sort of lying back to back and, you know, he's sort of lying on her and I just think it's warmth and reassurance he's probably never really had.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And comfort.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I just don't think he's grown up with that.
Speaker B:Yeah, Very, very good point.
Speaker B:I didn't pick that up.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That's a great point.
Speaker A:You know, and it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I think it probably bowled him over.
Speaker A:I just don't think he's ever felt that before.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:For all we, you know, Moira and Johnny are awesome and clearly love each other and the kids, but I think that's probably one of the key things they missed, is that t.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker B:I definitely agree with that.
Speaker B:And it's ironic because David didn't want to go to yoga.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Alexis forced him to go and in the end he got so much out of it, including the rest.
Speaker B:You Know, so I found funny.
Speaker B:And one of the comments that I loved, I think I'm just having a.
Speaker A:Very hard time adjusting to the overall.
Speaker B:Aesthetic of the town, which I just think is spent.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, that's a Moira Comet.
Speaker B:That's something we would hear from Moira, you know, basically saying, this town is bloody ugly.
Speaker B:Yeah, I hate this town.
Speaker B:That's why you.
Speaker A:My hair color.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:You know, I'm having a hard time adjusting to the aesthetic.
Speaker A:It's fabulous.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker A:Fabulous.
Speaker A:The other random thing that happens, there's actually quite a bit in this episode, but Alexis ends up having to explain to Mutt that, you know, she dresses so well for community service because Naomi Campbell did the same.
Speaker A:Naomi Campbell actually wore couture, you know.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:To hers with another name drop.
Speaker A:You know, Naomi Campbell.
Speaker A:We haven't had one for a few episodes.
Speaker A:But I love, first of all, that Alexis is benching, marking herself against a supermodel.
Speaker A:Fabulous.
Speaker A:You go, girl.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker A:But while we're on Mutt, he washes his clothes on rocks.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker B:I know, I know, I know.
Speaker B:I mean, it.
Speaker A:It's actually.
Speaker A:I really struggle with him because it just feels like he's trying too hard.
Speaker A:I can't work out if he's.
Speaker A:He actually is super chill and really that's the way he wants to live with this sort of purpose.
Speaker A:Or if he's.
Speaker A:He wants to be seen as an eco warrior.
Speaker A:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I can't work out how much is performance and how much is real.
Speaker B:Well, is he doing community service, too?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:What did he do wrong?
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think in maybe a previous episode, he said something about dealing drugs.
Speaker A:Like, I think it was a Not small thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, you know, and then he's not really perfect.
Speaker A:No, not at all.
Speaker B:You know, so, you know, he's not really an ego warrior, but I think.
Speaker B:I just think he's grown up in a dysfunctional family.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, he's his dad's role and I guess, to be fair.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So to be fair.
Speaker B:And he's kind of in these two worlds.
Speaker B:Like, he lives on his own, so he's.
Speaker B:He's got his parents.
Speaker B:He probably can see that.
Speaker B:That they're a bit odd.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he's, like, trying to find his place.
Speaker B:He's kind of like.
Speaker B:He's in between worlds.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker B:You know, so he's got this old school, you know, kind of mental.
Speaker B:Not old School.
Speaker B:But a very old fashioned or, you know, minimalist.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Way of living.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:But then he's still getting in trouble for doing the wrong thing.
Speaker B:So he still finds himself in these situations, which I think is something Roland would have found himself into.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, can you imagine that?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:But yeah, I've.
Speaker A:And I think, I think Mud is one of those characters and he, he actually doesn't.
Speaker A:He's only in and out of the, of the show generally.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He's not a huge part of the show.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:And I think perhaps audiences reacted maybe the same way I do where like he's, he provides some like, comedic relief and certainly for Alexis early on, he's some eye candy, you know, but.
Speaker A:But he just doesn't quite.
Speaker A:He's not as interesting as the others.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Even the other little characters, I mean, Bob and Gwen, all these other people are far more interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's got no real personality.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Very bland, funny.
Speaker B:He's not, he doesn't really have any particular character.
Speaker B:He's this.
Speaker B:He's just there.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's interesting.
Speaker B:And it's interesting that she's taken a liking to him.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, clearly it's probably just a physical thing, but.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's nothing in common.
Speaker B:They have nothing in common.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:He washes clothes on rocks and he.
Speaker A:Doesn'T really seem to be that interested anyway.
Speaker A:Like, do you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's not like, whatever.
Speaker B:He would just kind of go with the flow.
Speaker A:Well, and, and you know, be like dating a teenage boy, like, whatever.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But Alexis, I think at this point would just date.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyone.
Speaker A:She's finding herself.
Speaker A:She's, she's trying to exactly work out who she's in this new world, floating.
Speaker B:Around and just, just trying to catch something that feels right for her.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And so, you know, I think he's probably showing the least amount of resistance than anybody else.
Speaker A:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker A:Which is maybe not the way to pick up a.
Speaker B:No, it's definitely not.
Speaker A:But everybody gets to learn that in their own time.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:She'll get there.
Speaker A:Is there anything else we've missed?
Speaker A:I mean, this was a cracker.
Speaker B:Oh, it was a fantastic.
Speaker B:I just loved it.
Speaker B:I loved, I loved the phone calls at the start how, you know, they were trying to get the phone call through to Johnny.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:And none of them can work the phone.
Speaker B:And then he ends up putting through the kids room and Alexis picks up the phone's like, oh, wrong room.
Speaker B:I need the Call.
Speaker B:It's wrong.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:There's actually a lot of almost old school comedy in this, a lot of of Keystone Cops almost style stuff, isn't there?
Speaker A:There's a lot of that in this episode.
Speaker B:I found that so funny and so relatable and also cheeky.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, very cheeky.
Speaker A:Very cheeky.
Speaker A:And yeah, loved seeing Moira starting in her element.
Speaker A:There's some crackers coming up where she goes even deeper, which is fabulous.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, but yeah, she and the way they finished the episode with her doing with the ad essentially and just her absolutely smashed doing that and still managing.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:She's so good.
Speaker A:So beautifully.
Speaker A:She's just fabulous.
Speaker A:Love, love, love.
Speaker A:When I grow up.
Speaker B:Great one.
Speaker B:It was a great episode.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Really good.
Speaker A:Really good.
Speaker A:Well, if you enjoyed our deep dive into episode six, Wine and Roses, make sure to follow us on Instagram.
Speaker A:Emma is at the accounting division and I'm at at I am Peter D.
Speaker B:And we want to hear from you.
Speaker B:We're six episodes in.
Speaker B:Who do you think is the MVP of our main four characters?
Speaker B:Johnny, Moira, David or Alexis?
Speaker A:That's a tough call.
Speaker A:Actually.
Speaker A:Drop us a voice message@speakpipe.
Speaker A:With money and we'd love to know who you think is the MVP and you may hear yourself on a future episode next time.
Speaker B:We're diving into episode seven, Turkey Shoe.
Speaker B:Oh, Johnny and Roland team for a business venture.
Speaker B:God help us.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And let's just say their definitions of strategy do not align.
Speaker B:Meanwhile, Alexis takes on a new role and David learns that working retail in Schitt's Creek is a whole different beast.
Speaker A:I can't wait to see you then.
Speaker B:Thanks, Peter.
Speaker B:Bye.
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